go into rural alabama, or north dakota or pennsylvania, inner city brooklyn via the internet, and i'm able to talk to kids about what is on their minds. and what i find, the saddest thing i see, is this tremendous excitement, enthusiasm, curiosity, for history, from so many kids, and really dedicated teachers trying to keep that curiosity alive, but we get so bogged down in the testing and the standardized testing, that we sometimes do tamp down or even kill that sense of curiosity. >> host: first call for kenneth davis from mill hall, pennsylvania, lawrence, you're on the air. go ahead. lawrence, are you with us? and we're going to move on to jeffrey in georgia. jeffrey, please go ahead with your question or comment for kenneth davis. >> caller: yes, i was calling, talking about the american history book. i had read it, and i am a college student who is planning on tory. and i was calling, what do you think it will take for kids to be more excited about history when it is so fascinating. but like you said, standardized testing is just, it takes control over the kids wanted to learn
